Falta NTLDR

[jorgeklotz]

Boa tarde a todos,

Estou com um problema que parece ser bem comum e discutido em varios foruns mas que ainda naum achei uma soluçao q resolvesse o meu problema.

É o seguinte: uso Ubuntu a mais ou menos um ano e resolvi fazer uma limpa geral no computer antes de instalar o 7.10. Formatei o meu HD de 80gb assim:

Hda1 - FAT32- Midia (meus docs)
Hda2 - Ntfs - WinXP
Hda3 - ext3 - Ubuntu 7.10
Hda4 - Swap

instalei primeiro o WinXP, depois o Ubuntu.
Ao tentar abrir o Win a mensagem de erro aparece "Falta NTLDR"
Ok, tentei conserta-lo mas nao consegui. Reinstalei o bendito e iniciou numa boa. Restaurei o GRUB (como vcs ja sabem o windows ogramente atropela td q ve pela frente) e apareceu novamente a tela de boot mas o problema persiste: Ubuntu ok e WinXp sem NTLDR.

Agora as dúvidas:

-Isto pode estra acontecendo por o Win naum estar na primeira partiçao e sim os meus docs?
-Pode ser um problema no Hd ou na memória (ja fiz o memtest e deu td ok)?

Muitissimo obrigado a todos que puderem dar uma força. Quem conhece sabe que esta comunidade eh a grande chave do Ubuntu!
Espero ter sido claro
abs

[tfmoraes]

Dá uma lida nisto http://www.forumpcs.com.br/viewtopic.php?t=84335

[clcampos]

Posta o arquivo /boot/grub/menu.lst. Também tive este problema uma vez e foi nele que eu mexi, por incrível que pareça comigo o problema não era exatamente no windows...

[jorgeklotz]

Esse eh o conteudo do meu grub. Eu pensei que poderia ser algo aqui, mas naum consegui resolver. Se tiver alguma ideia eu agradeceria.
Abs!


# menu.lst - See: grub(, info grub, update-grub(
#            grub-install(, grub-floppy(,
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default      0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout      10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title      Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root      (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1
#
# title      Linux
# root      (hd0,1)
# kernel   /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,2)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title      Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro quiet splash
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title      Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro single
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title      Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title      Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hda1
title      Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root      (hd0,2)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader   +1

[clcampos]

Tente fazer a alteração sugerida. Ela esta em negrito e foi realizada baseado na sua informação.

# menu.lst - See: grub(Legal, info grub, update-grub(Legal
#            grub-install(Legal, grub-floppy(Legal,
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default      0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout      10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title      Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root      (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1
#
# title      Linux
# root      (hd0,1)
# kernel   /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,2)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title      Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro quiet splash
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title      Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9091a173-a602-46ff-88f5-8acca5a5d15a ro single
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title      Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root      (hd0,2)
kernel      /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title      Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hda1
title      Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root      (hd0,1)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader   +1

[jorgeklotz]

Clcampos,

Tentei a mudança sugerida e infelizmente naum tivemos sucesso.
Agradeço imensamente por dedicar um pouco do seu tempo para me ajudar.
Se tiver mais alguma sugestao eu estou aceitando!
Abs a todos

[jorgeklotz]

Algum progresso! (eu acho...)

Após copiar o Ntldr do cd do WinXP para o arquivo certo a opçao do windows no grub simplesmente reinicia o computador.
Assim:
Ao selecionar o Windows, ao invés do computer carregar o SO ele simplesmente reinicia.
Alguem sabe o que pode ser?

[clcampos]

Você esta usando a linha que estava?

root      (hd0,2)

Ou a que sugeri?

root      (hd0,1)

[jorgeklotz]

a q vc sugeriu...
root   (hd0,1)

[clcampos]

a q vc sugeriu...
root   (hd0,1)

Com estas informações suas aqui:

Hda1 - FAT32- Midia (meus docs)
Hda2 - Ntfs - WinXP
Hda3 - ext3 - Ubuntu 7.10
Hda4 - Swap

Deveria ser assim mesmo, mas tente do outro jeito, quem sabe.